Wednesday, August 7, 2019

Asked to leave by E-mail Really

It has been a few years seance I have written any rants on anything and a friend of mine sent me this e-mail just that other day and I thought it was beyond messed up. One because it was all done over e-mail and No Phone calls or any type of voice contact was even considered. Two the scoutmaster didn't even know it was going on.

  OK so this is might be a hard to read as you have to start from the bottom and work your way back to the top I have removed all the Name and the Troop number just because. I have no real problem with leaving everything in but for the sake of scouting I have removed them.

In the past I have written a rant on scouting and at the time I might have thought that way because I was rather mad about that situation. I have for the most part Thought the BSA/scouting was good for Boys and now Girls. They learn some very valid skills both for indoor and outdoor. I believe it to be a good program, until you hear and see things like this, But that is not on the Scouting it is more on the troop and the people running the Troop like the Charter org rep and committee chair in this case. as you read through it you'll see that the Charter org rep never reply's to anything not even his own misconduct.

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Date: 8/2/19 2:07 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: Troop moving forward

Sounds good.
Committee Chair

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On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 2:01 PM,
You would need to get in contact with them about the school paper work
scoutmaster
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Date: 8/2/19 1:53 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: Troop moving forward

Not a problem!   Once I get them we can meet up.  When we do bring scout 2's book and I will sign off anything else I need to for the eagle palm.  Also I thought the advancement chair said something about scout 2 needing a signature for school about the community service for watching the pancake equipment last year. 

committee chair


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On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 1:48 PM,
Astronomy and a gold Palm were the other two things that he needed
 Thank you 
Scoutmaster
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Date: 8/2/19 1:39 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: Troop moving forward

 Indian lore  Pioneering, art, game design merit badges correct. Wait there was another one he finished what one is that.  And a Palm.  I will have all that ready when we meet up.

Committee chair


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On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 11:53 AM,
Before the court as this will be the last thing we do with the troop, so I would like to do it ASAP
Scoutmaster
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Date: 8/2/19 11:43 AM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: Troop  moving forward

Scout 2 will get his awards for sure.  Don't worry about that.  Would you like them before the Court of honor?  If so that's fine as soon as I get the blue cards from the Advancement chair.  I can buy them.  Just let me know what you want to do.

Committee Chair




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On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 8:10 AM,
You know really in the end I don't care I meant to talk to you about leaving at summer camp.  I am primarily giving you grief because it's been three weeks. In situations like this it should be addressed almost immediately for anybody and anything. as I said the situation with The Charter Org rep was never resolved satisfactory for myself or other people in the troop, he is the reason why we have lost at least 2 boys in the past. He was to come to the troop and apologize for his actions and foul language on the day that we had to move out of the hut which he never did. The Charter org Rep being the charter org rep has always been a problem. The Charter org rep never wanted me as scoutmaster and I feel has been working against me and the continuing life of the troop for more than a year and a half.
 I have no troop gear of any kind and we can set up a time to meet to give you the key to the shed. all I request are the awards due to my son and then my whole family will depart. 
Scoutmaster
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Date: 8/2/19 12:58 AM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: Troop moving forward

Charter Org Rep did exactly what I asked him to do Scoutmaster and that was to step away and if he need to get the troop to do something to let me know and I would make it happen.  With that being said his problem was with you not a scout.  I still handled it like I should have.  But Im not going to play the blame game with anybody.  If you don't want to excuse yourself from the troop to the boys thats fine too.  In a few days I will do it myself.  I told the charter org rep that I would let you know about asking you to step down so there wouldn't a big problem about it because we are all adults.  I have other things I'm dealing with so lets please not make this any harder then it is.  This is never what I want to do in scouting.

Committee Chair


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On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 8:07 PM, 
So I'm still at a lost as to why this is coming up 3 weeks later and the troop is still waiting on The Charter Org rep's misconduct and YP violations in front of the boys to be resolved in a satisfactory way
Scoutmaster
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Date: 8/1/19 7:58 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: Troop  moving forward

Not with our troop no.  It comes down to a YP violation and The charter org rep has final say.  We are giving you a chance to excuse yourself in the eyes of the scouts.  That is your say, on how you would like to word it.

Committee chair


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On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:50 PM,
So I get no voice and get to put up no defense
Scoutmaster
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Date: 8/1/19 7:47 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: Troop moving forward

We were discussing how to handle the situation that came up from camp.  That's why you weren't involved. 
Committee Chair


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On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:30 PM,
Who was talking about it today because I was not part of any discussion regarding the troop and as scoutmaster I would think anything regarding the troop and it's life moving forward I would have a say
                                       ScoutMaster
------ Original message --------Date: 8/1/19 7:24 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Re: Troop moving forward

We were talking about what we wanted to do.  And that was decided today.

Committee chair

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On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:14 PM,
Why was this not brought up earlier.
Scoutmaster
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Date: 8/1/19 5:14 PM (GMT-08:00)

Subject: Troop  moving forward

On the last day of summer camp it was brought to my attention from another scout leader that you threatened to take a scouts' leadership role away from if he didn't participate in the camp wide game, I forget the name of the games.  Also yelling at them.  Later I found out from Scout 1 that the scout was scout 2.  Scout 1 told me that Scout 2 reported to him that you told him that if he doesn't participate in the games that you will take his den cheif ropes away.  I know this was very hard for scout 2 to tell Scout 1 this since you are his father.  With That being said after talking to Shad and council for a very long time we have came to the final decision to thank you for your service and to let you know that you need to step down effective immediately.   If you would like to save face to the troop that is fine but please do so asap.  I know you are working with a scout 3 troop as well and that could be the reason you have to leave.  The scouts don't have to know what went on behind the scenes.  Please let me know when you can turn in any troop gear you might have and the key to the storage unit.  

Committee chair
Start here and read up 
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I think we can just leave it there and go with really what are you kidding me

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